Wrestling femminile 2019

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Messaggio da poppo the snake » 17/10/2019, 8:09

Da PWI
Yahoo Japan reported this evening that Bushiroad, the parent company of New Japan Pro Wrestling is acquiring STARDOM, the preeminent women's promotion in Japan.

Serious negotiations to take over STARDOM has been ongoing since early September. There had been interest on Bushiroad's end since this past Spring.

The official announcement will come tomorrow.
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Re: Wrestling femminile 2019

Messaggio da Geno » 17/10/2019, 8:16

Rimangono separate comunque.

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Messaggio da poppo the snake » 17/10/2019, 8:20

Geno ha scritto:
17/10/2019, 8:16
Rimangono separate comunque.
Lo credo anch'io, era più una provocazione la mia

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Re: Wrestling femminile 2019

Messaggio da Geno » 17/10/2019, 9:23

Io credo che la Stardom sarà presente nei tour esteri nella New Japan.

La "fusione" non è possibile anche perché Asahi ha delle quote di NJPW World e la Stardom ha un accordo TV con Nippon TV

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Messaggio da poppo the snake » 17/10/2019, 9:32

La conferenza stampa

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Messaggio da poppo the snake » 17/10/2019, 10:02

In sintesi (poi magari vado anche a lavorare :LOL: ):
- La Stardom non è più una società a tutti gli effetti ma viene incorporata da Bushiroad attraverso un suo gruppo interno che attualmente si chiama Kix Road, ma che dall'anno prossimo si chiamerà Bushiroad Fight Co.
- Rossy rimane come CEO (scontato)
- Nippon TV mantiene gli accordi (per ora, mi sa), ma dall'anno prossimo ci sarà anche un programma TV di 30 minuti che andrà in onda su due canali (non ho capito bene quali)
- Già a Dicembre saranno in America (solo un tag team match all'interno di un evento in California)
- Stardom World rimane al suo posto (e vabbè ovvio anche questo)

Nessuna menzione per NJPW-ROH-CMLL ma anche qui niente di strano, non avrebbe senso ora come ora

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Messaggio da Joy Black » 17/10/2019, 11:33

Azz questa è discretamente grossa come notizia. Magari visto che il Dome è su due giorni un match a loro potrebbero darlo.

EDIT
AH ho letto che sono comunque due mondi a parte per il momento, quindi nulla. Fanno parte della stessa società

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Re: Wrestling femminile 2019

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Messaggio da poppo the snake » 17/10/2019, 19:13

Come avevamo ipotizzato, scomparti separati com’era logico del resto (non si stravolgono i contratti tv dall’oggi al domani, tanto meno gli abbonamenti ai rispettivi network).

Comunque più girano al largo, meglio è :schifato:

Intanto l’addio di Giulia (che era presente alla conferenza stampa) pare non sia stato preso bene dalla Ice Ribbon, nell’ultimo show hanno detto che tecnicamente è ancora sotto contratto e che per ora sarà sostituita da Seya (che doveva essere già ritirata, ma per via del rifino ha rinviato lo show d’addio)

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Re: Wrestling femminile 2019

Messaggio da Emperador Horace » 17/10/2019, 19:56

Cos'è un rifino?
Contratti full time vuol dire che esisterà un posto in Giappone in cui le ragazze potranno campare di wrestling?

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Emperador Horace ha scritto:
17/10/2019, 19:56
Cos'è un rifino?
Contratti full time vuol dire che esisterà un posto in Giappone in cui le ragazze potranno campare di wrestling?
Boh, il mio cellulare ha deciso di inventarsi un vocabolario tutto suo :ugeek:

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Re: Wrestling femminile 2019

Messaggio da Joy Black » 18/10/2019, 10:08

Ho ascoltato il podcast Pacific Rim, con Fumi Saito, Jim Valley e c'era anche Meltzer a questo giro. Notizie interessanti, Saito che è vicino ad Ogawa, ha detto che lui non voleva vendere, ma si è convinto a farlo perché c'erano due grossi contendenti pronti a comprare: Bushi Road e la WWE.

La WWE voleva comprare Stardom sostanzialmente per fare da base alla divisione femminile del futuro NXT Japan. Ogawa ha chiesto diverse info su come avrebbero agito, ma non ha ricevuto niente di concreto in quel senso. Sostanzialmente prima avrebbero comprato e poi avrebbero iniziato a pensare ad un piano d'azione. Ad Ogawa è stato offerto anche un posto nella Hall of Fame.
Alla fine il piano di Bushi Road era migliore, e ha venduto a loro.

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Re: Wrestling femminile 2019

Messaggio da BuddyPeacock » 18/10/2019, 13:14

Joy Black ha scritto:
18/10/2019, 10:08

La WWE voleva comprare Stardom sostanzialmente per fare da base alla divisione femminile del futuro NXT Japan. Ogawa ha chiesto diverse info su come avrebbero agito, ma non ha ricevuto niente di concreto in quel senso. Sostanzialmente prima avrebbero comprato e poi avrebbero iniziato a pensare ad un piano d'azione.
I'm shocked...

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SHOCKED!

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Well, not that shocked.

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Re: Wrestling femminile 2019

Messaggio da Joy Black » 18/10/2019, 13:53

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World Wonder Ring Stardom, the Japanese women's pro wrestling company best known as Stardom, has been sold to Kix Road, a subsidiary of Bushiroad, in a deal announced 10/17 in Japan.

The story is likely to be misinterpreted as either New Japan buying Stardom, a merger between the two groups, or that New Japan will start using women wrestlers on their shows. None of this would be accurate.

But what is accurate is New Japan and Stardom would both be owned by the same parent company, but they are being run and kept completely separate. Stardom will be under the umbrella of Kix Road, which is the parent company of Knock Out, the Bushiroad kickboxing company.

As part of the deal, Kix Road, on 12/1, Kix Road Co,. Ltd will have its name changed to Bushiroad Fight Co, Ltd. There are no plans for any interaction between Knock out and Stardom.

Hiroshi "Rossy" Ogawa, who was the head of World Wonder Ring Stardom, will remain CEO of the women's wrestling promotion, which will maintain using the name Stardom. World Wonder Ring Stardom will no longer exist as a company.

Ogawa had been approached in recent months by both Bushiroad and WWE, both of which wanted to buy the promotion. The WWE plans were to merge Stardom with a men's promotion as NXT Japan and run it themselves. The Bushiroad idea was to keep Stardom as its own entity, allowing Ogawa to stay on and run the business. Another aspect is that in Japan, it is looked down upon to sell majority interest in a Japanese business to an American company.

Ogawa, who started in the pro wrestling industry in 1978, at the age of 20, working for the Matsunaga Brothers and All Japan Women, where he learned all aspects of promotion and was head of public relations, later started the Arsion promotion in the late 90s. After that promotion folded, he ran shows from time-to-time until he started Stardom on his own in 2010.

Stardom grew to be the most popular of the 17 or so women's wrestling promotions in Japan, and was also the most popular of all the full-time all-women's promotions in the world. It has consistently grown over the years, but it's still relatively small, as its biggest shows at Korakuen Hall draw 700 to 1,000, and it's regular home base, the Shinkiba First Ring in Tokyo, draws 300 to 400, and that's with standing room and packing people in like almost sardines. It's appeal became wider over the last year with the emergence of Hana Kimura, the daughter of former women's star Kyoko Kimura, and her exotic look. Unlike during the heyday of Japanese women's wrestling where the audience was mostly teenage girls, today's audience is most younger guys, and buying of merchandise directly from the women after the shows seems to be almost as big a thing as the shows themselves.

Ogawa wasn't looking at selling when first approached in February by Bushiroad. This past summer, both WWE and Bushiroad were, independently, and not with knowledge of the other, looking to buy the group.

Ogawa never strongly considered selling to WWE. Part of the situation was that Bushiroad had a battle plan for what they wanted to do, while WWE really didn't, past the point they wanted to use the women to start NXT Japan. But they really didn't seem to have a battle plan past the point they wanted to do it. There was no plan on who would run it, how it would be run, and it was likely to be merged with a men's group or the women would be put on shows with men as WWE does things. There were no decisions on house shows, as NXT U.K. was supposed to have house show and now only does TV tapings and one or two big shows a year. Stardom runs 100 to 125 live events per year, almost all in small buildings.

However, WWE did offer to sign the entire roster to contracts and bring them in for WrestleMania week, and also to induct Ogawa into the Hall of Fame in 2020 if the deal went through.

Bushiroad wanted to keep the Stardom structure as it was, with the same house show schedule, but build the stars and run occasional shows in larger arenas. They also had the money to more heavily promote the brand and its stars and Ogawa saw this as a chance to build up women's wrestling, which was huge in the culture at different periods in history, notably the mid-to-late 70s, and mid-80s and again in early-to-mid 90s, when acts like The Beauty Pair, The Crush Gals and Dump Matsumoto were legitimate household names and their matches drew monster ratings on the Fuji Network, at times equivalent tot he NFL in the U.S.

There will be new executives assigned by Bushiroad to join the small four-person front office staff already working in Stardom to head the front office in a few weeks. Ogawa and his current staff are expected to remain in place.

The deal was largely agreed to several weeks ago, and finalized one week ago. There has been no involvement, financial or otherwise, between Bushiroad and Stardom up to this point.

Bushiroad's role will be attempting through advertising and television to build the popularity of the brand, similar to how the resurgence of New Japan Pro Wrestling was built.

As part of the deal, a TV show will air on BS NTV and Tokyo MX starting in January, with the BS NTV show being a 30 minute show on Thursdays at 12:30 a.m. BS NTV is a sports station that airs Major League Baseball from the U.S. live in the morning, and the Yomiuri Giants, the most popular team in Japanese baseball, in prime time. Tokyo MX is equivalent to something like the CW Network, it is a network, but it's newer and a distant No. 7 among the network stations.

The streaming service Stardom World will remain the exclusive for Stardom events. New Japan World will not be streaming Stardom, and with New Japan World part-owned by TV-Asahi and the Stardom TV deal with rival NTV, politically that would be almost impossible to work out.

There are no plans at present for Stardom talent to appear on New Japan shows, or vice versa. However, if New Japan does see a demand for women's matches on foreign shows, where there is no sign of any at this point, this will give them easier access to broker a deal for such talent and this was not ruled out for some time in the future, but nothing at this point is planned or has been talked about in anything but the most vague terms.

The upcoming New Japan Tokyo Dome events have no womens talent scheduled. Down the line, just because of dual ownership, the idea of something for Japan a part of a special show would become easier to negotiate, but nothing is in the cards for that at this point.

Bushiroad will begin marketing Stardom in January with more advertising in wrestling magazines, on billboards and on television, and will be marketed as part of the Bushiroad family. Takaaki Kidani, the head of Bushiroad, talked in particular about trying to appeal the group back to the teenage girl audience that was there during the 70s and 80s when the company had its mainstream peak and its stars were celebrities.

Bushiroad stock went up 4.6 percent immediately after the public announcement of the acquisition.

On 12/7 and 12/8, Stardom talent will participate in CharaExpo 2019 at the Anaheim Convention Center, with a main event of Mayu Iwatani & Tam Nakano vs. Sumie Sakai & Nicole Savoy.

The Stardom talent will also be signed to full-time contracts.

What this means, with all the Japanese talent under contract, is that it would likely become the premier place for Japanese women talent, and it would become more difficult for WWE to sign their top talent, like they did with Io Shirai and Kairi Sane. When WWE attempted at first to sign Shirai (whose first deal fell through due to a medical condition discovered and the offer rescinded, and she returned to Stardom, only to leave when WWE doctors cleared her after the condition was taken care of) and Sane, then known as Kairi Hojo, as well as Mayu Iwatani, there was serious talk that losing all three would have ended the promotion. But Shirai stayed for another year and Iwatani decided against going, and the promotion was no longer in danger.

On the flip side, there is a good chance this could end WWE allowing its U.K. talent, most notably Toni Storm, to work for Stardom going forward. WWE already nixed allowing Storm to lose a match to Bea Priestley in Stardom, because Priestley had worked for AEW. But that is really a WWE decision, as Stardom's idea is to remain neutral, as it uses WWE U.K. contracted women, has Priestley and Riho, both of AEW, as current champions, and Iwatani has held the ROH title and Stardom wrestlers have appeared on ROH shows including the Madison Square Garden show in April.

With the company being backed by Bushiroad, it would enable them to pay more if necessary, if that is an issue, although WWE did not pay big money for Shirai and Sane, believed to be in the range of $60,000 per year for each to start, which is less than both were earning in Stardom. Sane likely makes more now working on the main roster than she did in Japan.

Stardom will run what is planned to be the biggest show in its history on 4/29 at the Ota Ward Gym in Tokyo, and there is a plan to run an even bigger event in 2021 to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the company.

Bushiroad believes they can also enhance the product by making the characters more interesting. They have looked at hiring a coach/producer to help the women with new characters. One former New Japan wrestler was offered that position but turned it down last month.

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Re: Wrestling femminile 2019

Messaggio da poppo the snake » 18/10/2019, 17:50

Boh, sta cosa di NXT Japan che hanno tirato fuori anche per la NOAH non mi convince mica (almeno per quanto riguarda l'acquisto diretto delle compagnie).
Bushiroad believes they can also enhance the product by making the characters more interesting. They have looked at hiring a coach/producer to help the women with new characters. One former New Japan wrestler was offered that position but turned it down last month.
Kyona nuova Bone soldier e Mayu Captain Stardom. Cosa potrebbe andar mai storto? :intelligente:

Comunque se Rossy li ha pelati e le ragazze guadagneranno di più tanto meglio.

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